mitt romney is a guy car. they keep misquoting him but let me tell you about the mitt romney i know. >> all right. so the cnn orc poll immediately after the debate found it to be basically a tie, maybe paul ryan a slight edge, 48% to 44%. anna, do you agree with those poll numbers or do you think there was a clear winner? >> i'm a republican pundit so i'm supposed to tell you i saw paul ryan crush joe biden but i took some truth serum this morning. i saw a draw. i think they both did very well and did what they needed to do. joe biden did a lot better than president obama and that's what he was being compared, to and i think paul ryan held his own against a very seasoned, one of the most veteran politicians in america today. they went to to toe, and i think the american people won. we saw a very good energetic debate where we saw two very clearly defined positions on practically everyish you a. >> so richard, you're a democrat, did you also drink some of that truth serum with anna? >> i missed the truth serum